Course Lab
Interview with Heather E. Wilson
Director of Education, Mirasee
Interview Summary
Heather E. Wilson is the Director of Education at Mirasee and the person responsible for managing 900+ students through Hybrid Course University — a nine-month program with four sequential courses. She started her career as an instructional designer in the early 2000s making "glorified PowerPoints," became a business coach, then joined Mirasee to combine both skill sets at scale. The episode is an inside look at the systems, coach training, and engagement strategies required when a course grows from a handful of students to nearly a thousand.
From Glorified PowerPoints to 900+ Students
Heather E. Wilson started in the early 2000s doing what they called "computer based training" — animated PowerPoints that ran for hours. She watched instructional design evolve over two decades, then left to become a business coach and create her own courses. When she joined Mirasee, everything changed in scale. "A lot of people aspire to have hundreds, if not thousands of students," she says. "But they really have no concept of what happens when you have 900 plus students instantly." The first challenge was email volume. Each coach was assigned a group of students and became responsible for every type of question — from assignments to Slack access to tech troubleshooting. "Tech being one of the biggest ones was kind of a surprise," Wilson admits. They had to train coaches not just on the courseware, but on everything that surrounded it.
A lot of people aspire to it. But they really have no concept of what happens when you have 900 plus students instantly. It was quite overwhelming initially.
The Engagement Curve and What to Do About It
Wilson describes a pattern that every large-cohort course creator will recognize: "You see real major excitement when they first start — full engagement, 900 plus students, everyone's go, go, go, thousands of emails flying at the coaches. And then you notice, after a couple of weeks, that has decreased." The team tracks engagement levels and monitors where students are in the course. When a student goes quiet, a coach sends a personal email: "Hey, I haven't seen you for a while on a call — what's up? Can I help you?" But personal outreach alone cannot scale. So Wilson built systematic re-engagement challenges designed for each of the four courses in the program. The approach is not just accountability — it is fun. "We like to add fun into it," she says. "That's a big part of why students love coming to our calls."
We can't care more about them than themselves, even though it often feels like we do. Because we do truly, truly care about their results.
Bingo Cards and the Power of Fun
The re-engagement tool Wilson is most enthusiastic about is bingo. Each course gets its own custom bingo card with tasks linked to the actual course content. For Hybrid Course Audience, one square requires designing your lead magnet. You cannot check it off until you have actually done the work. Completion enters you into a prize draw — and Wilson says people are genuinely motivated by it, even in 2023. "You would be amazed at how much people love bingo, even in this day and age." The prizes are internal: Mirasee service credits for copywriting, web design, and similar done-for-you services. For solo course creators without that kind of budget, Wilson suggests offering coaching calls, access to a program you have already created, or anything you can give that costs you time rather than cash. One coaching-call prize, she notes, often leads to a longer relationship because the know-like-trust factor becomes so strong.
We created these bingo cards, with specific tasks that were linked to the content in the course. Everyone who completes the full bingo card gets entered into the draw for prizes. You would be amazed at how much people love bingo.
Caring Is Not a Tactic — It Is the Baseline
Wilson closes with a statement that Danny later highlights as the real takeaway of the episode: "I feel that our students know that we really care. And I think that differentiates us in the industry." She acknowledges the scale will only grow, but insists that every student who is in front of the team at any given moment should feel cared for and heard. In the debrief, Danny cautions against the opposite extreme — becoming so preoccupied with tactics and gamification that the course feels gimmicky. The bingo cards and challenges are valuable, but they sit on top of a foundation of genuine care, coach training, and consistent blocking and tackling. Abe adds that the emphasis on fun is often overlooked in course design conversations: "There's a risk that we become too focused on how we get people to completion, and it becomes this almost aggressive or pushing process. How can we approach this with a sense of lightness?"
Even though we have a very large cohort, and it's only going to get bigger, we try to make sure that every student who is in front of us at the time feels cared for and heard. And that's unique in the industry.
Heather's Action Steps
Heather recommends these 3 steps to improve your course planning:
Build systematic re-engagement for each phase of your course
Wilson creates a separate bingo or challenge for each of the four courses in HCU. If your course has multiple phases, design a re-engagement mechanism specific to each one — tied to the actual assignments, not generic motivation.
Train coaches on everything, not just the content
Wilson found that tech questions were the biggest surprise at scale. If you use coaches or TAs, train them on the full student experience: the platform, Slack, email workflows, and common tech issues — not just the courseware.
Leverage star students as peer support
Some of Mirasee's best student support comes from star students who answer questions before the team can. If you cannot afford a full coach team, identify engaged alumni or current students and invite them to help — it benefits everyone.
About Heather E. Wilson
Director of Education, Mirasee
Heather E. Wilson is the Director of Education at Mirasee, where she manages the student experience for Hybrid Course University — a nine-month, four-course program serving 900+ students per cohort. She started as an instructional designer in the early 2000s, spent a decade as a business coach building her own courses, and now combines both skill sets to run one of the largest course operations in the online education space. She also hosts the Ginspired podcast.
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